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| ausweikis | This is my thread for learning Old Prussian. If anyone has any good ideas about how to start then please let me know. |
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| Mānts | ausweikis
Kails!
Kaīls! first of all, introduce yourself and what languages you already know :) then, do you already have the Prussian dictionary? |
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| Glabbis | The term "old Prussian" is for monuments of Prussian writing only. We all are modern people and we use modern languages with modern orthography etc, so we use for our living language term "new Prussian". The difference is: this is reconstructed language with united orthography. |
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Yes I already have the dictionary and have read the introduction. In addition to being a native speaker of English I speak Polish and German. However I am not fluent in the last two languages but I get by. Great. And why are you interested in Prussian? Do you have any Prussian ancestors? |
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| ausweikis | Mānts
My family is from the Baltic and is made up of Prussians and possibly some Kaschub. Whether or not my family were native Prussians is hard to say but the possibility exists. In fact my surname dates back to 13th Century Gdansk. I am also interested in our native Baltic culture. I like the native religions because they are very close to nature and I think as a result we can learn something from them. |
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| Mānts | ausweikis
Mānts
My family is from the Baltic and is made up of Prussians and possibly some Kaschub. Whether or not my family were native Prussians is hard to say but the possibility exists. In fact my surname dates back to 13th Century Gdansk. I see. Maybe you might as well tell us your surname and some more from your family tree? (if it's not a secret, of course) :) I am also interested in our native Baltic culture. I like the native religions because they are very close to nature and I think as a result we can learn something from them. Indeed. By the way, do you already know how to use the dictionary? |
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| ausweikis | Mānts
My surname is Ritz. The surnames of my Grandparents are Czapp and Prange. Mānts
I'm not really sure because I've only read the introduction which describes the linguistic techniques used to reconstruct the language. You had probably better tell me! Glabbis
Please look at lessons on personal pronouns and verb "to be" and tell me if it is clear or not. Do you understand how to use the table of inflections: cases, genders, etc I will start my lessons today and let you know how I get on. Thanks for your help, ausweikis |
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| Mānts | ausweikis
Prange sounds very Baltic :)
29th page last paragraph in English file :) For the beginning, try to write the classic "I am, Thou are.." using the dictionary and the inlfection table. |
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| ausweikis | The abbreviation "ps" is not defined on page 31 of the dictionary. What does it stand for? |
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| Mānts | ausweikis
I'm beginning to find my way around the dictionary but its slow going. I've located the verb "to be" (Būtwei), and managed to construct its various forms. The post by other members assisted me when I did this.
ps is for present tense. |
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| ausweikis | You can find my Baltic Prussian blog here: http://ausweikis.wordpress.com/. PS: I'm thinking of changing my life style so I can devote more of my time to things Prussian. If any of you have any ideas about how I can do this just let me know. PPS: Does anyone in Olsztyn need an English Teacher? |
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| Glabbis | for me this format of "blog" is strange. It's modern thing. Strange structure. I can't understand how to use it. Why not to do the usual web-page? |
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| ausweikis | Glabbis
Why not to do the usual web-page? I like blogging for many reasons. Firstly when I became a blogger I joined a large community of people. Secondly, I am learning a lot about web 2.0 technology most of which is related to blogging. Finally, I hope that blogging will help me find other people who share my interest in Baltic Prussian History. Blogging is fun and I've been doing it for years. My first blog can be found here: http://www.bebo.com/aemr. I hope that my new blog about Baltic Prussian History will be as successful. |
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| Glabbis | for example, prussian newspaprer http://prusai.org/twanksta/nawwiniskwas.htm there, you canb find other links |
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| ausweikis | Glabbis
you know, i've seen your "Baltic Prussian blog" and i see that you just took some links which, i could say, anti-Prussian, because they contain lot of stupid information for those who will never do anything connected with prussian movement. I understand that for you it doesn't matter what's there. Well, if i do something and understand that i am not a specialist in this area, i could ask someone - if i took "right" material. My Prussian blog is the place where I will store reference material about the Old Prussian people and their language. It changes and grows on a weekly basis. Any comments about the links I publish and my posts are welcome. Naturally I would like to publish and reference "historically accurate" material and I will try to do so. I have already deleted a post that did not contain adequate references. There will also be some speculative material on my blog too. This is to be expected and is why I created the blog. Who in the end has an accurate picture of the true nature of the Old Prussian people? By blogging I hope to find out. My blog was created to post historical information about the Old Prussian people but I can of course include contemporary material too. So thanks for the link to the Prussian newspaper. It looks very interesting and will also help me learn Prussian. |
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| Glabbis | I wonder what language lessons you want to put there? |
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| ausweikis | Glabbis
As i see it now - it is site for those who don't interesting in real prussians. You say about some "old prussians". I think that prussian site should have the goal to destroy this strange border - old / not old. Of course you saw how Ostpreusens there in Berlin look sceptical at themselves. So maybe you do the same.
Thanks for the comment. I will take what you say into account while posting. I intend to publish the notes that I'm making while learning Prussian. My first posts will cover the elements of the Prussian language that you would expect to find in any course on learning a new language. The aim of my posts will be to help native speakers of English learn the basics of the language and also teach them how to use the Prussian dictionary effectively. |
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| Glabbis | Well, you can write such a "lesson" where 90% there will be mistakes. So what else? What to do with such "lesson". Your friends english speakers would say - it's great! because it's not important for them what's there. Funny. |
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| ausweikis | Glabbis
....You could do something with yourself and your knowledge of Prussian first, then you would think how to publish it on your site... I have started to learn Prussian by reading the tutorials on this site and elsewhere. For instance, Nērtikas has some lessons listed under Taweīniska bilā. My blog will be a record of my learning. I don't think there will be any errors because if I am unsure of something I can always ask on this site. I would like to learn Prussian a little faster but that is very dificult because I spend most of my time working. I read on the INTERNET that people in Poland now work harder than the Chinese! It certainly feels like that at times. |
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